Posted on July 25 2016
Finding your first, or next ski touring setup.
Cripple Creek Backcountry touring specific shop located in a tiny plaza on the outskirts of Carbondale, Colorado. When a customer comes into the store it means they came into learn about ski touring. Although our specialization makes it clear what the customer wants, no two customers knowledge level or goals are the same. The most important step for figuring out what a customer wants is to ask them a lot of questions. If you are doing the shopping and research on your own, you can ask yourself the exact same questions!
What was your previous ski touring setup?
This is a great question for figuring out where you are coming from and where you are going.
Where do you like to ski tour?
This is the all important question for deciding your touring setup and these are a few of the common answers we get in the shop at Cripple Creek Backcountry.
- I just want to tour up the resort on a groom run with my friends before and after work. The backcountry is a crazy place full of route finding and avalanche danger. As the sport of ski touring grows you no longer need to risk life and limb in pursuit of endless powder turns and this is becoming one of our most common niches. Over half time time a customer says that they never need to tour a day in the backcountry, they are a back within a year hooked and ready for their next setup. The resort or fitness tourer is a perfectly acceptable and perhaps preferred pace to start. This is great for developing your skiing and skinning techniques, getting used to your touring equipment and learning and pushing your limits in a controlled environment. In addition its fun, relaxed and social.
- I am a runner or a cyclist and I am looking to cross train through ski touring in the winter. The racer is similar to the fitness and resort application, but is usually breathing too hard to be social. At Cripple Creek Backcountry we work hand in hand with COSMIC (Colorado Ski Mountaineering Cup) putting on the largest ski mountaineering race series in the country. To compete here (or if you just want to shave minutes of your local resort uphill route) you are going to want the lightest gear possible. It really does change the pace of the entire sport, from an uphill slog to a quick and low resistance jog.
- I am here to ski powder in the backcountry. When most people close their eyes and dream of ski touring, this is the image that comes to mind. Sweeping turns down a blank canvas of freshly fallen snow in a void of silence filled only by your own breathing. It is certainly a romantic and hard to obtain goal and we all know skiers who will only suite up for the promise of these illusive perfect turns.
- I want to use ski touring as a mode of transportation and winter weapon for peak bagging. We get this answer often from ice climbers or summer time 14er hikers, but it also fits the athlete in pursuit of pure ski mountaineering. Your goal is no longer resort skinning, but it is far different than yoyo laps or repeatedly going up and down the same skin track to find the best snow. The ski mountaineer is concerned with exploring and snow conditions are secondary to the act of just getting out.
- I ski hard and want a big mountain ski for the backcountry and inbounds. Hucking cliffs and skiing steep is hard to do safely in the backcountry so odds are you are going to take this setup to the resort to practice. This is also a good choice for bigger skiers or with a racing background where turns are made by throwing your skis out to the side for hard charging turns rather than skiing with your weight right over your skis with a more conservative backcountry style.
What is your Quiver Slot?
Ski touring equipment has seen an explosion of innovation in the last 10 years. This giving the rise to many niches within our sport or for our purposes here, "quiver slots". This applies to touring skis, but also to touring bindings and boots as well. 7 Years ago the concept of a quiver slot for your ski touring boots would have sounded absurd, but now its widely accepted that it is impossible for one boot, ski or binding, to be great at everything. Don't despair, there are certainly setups that are good at everything, so depending on your aspirations their could still be that "quiver of one" out their for you.
If this idea of different kinds of ski touring equipment within already a small niche sport is new for you, lets put it in terms of bikes. Even if you are not a complete cycling gear nerd you understand the different needs for a road bike and a mountain bike. You certainly don't want to be hurdling down a rugged trail on skinny road tires and trust me, crawling along a paved road on 29+ inch mountain bike tires is about as frustrating as it gets. You have two bikes and your done right? Well now what if you just need a comfy bike for cruising through town or you don't want to beat up one of your new machines though use on the beach? What if you like really long and easy trails for riding in the mountains? You may not need much suspensions at all, but if you find yourself in Moab on a really rocky trail you will not regret spending $80 to demo a cushy bike. On and on it goes and it is much the same for ski touring. This doesn't mean you need 5 setups to be prepared but understanding your ski touring goals upfront will make sure you are not regretting a $2000 purchase half way through your first season.
We have placed the full range of touring skis, bindings and boots on a spectrum within 4 distinct categories. Most simply, they range from the lightest and skinniest skis starting in the race and fitness category going up to ski mountaineering through all mountain and finishing in the widest and heaviest skis in the powder freeride category.
Here is the breakdown of each quiver slot according to the waist of the ski with the lightest quiver slot at the top and the heaviest at the bottom.
For the Race and Fitness quiver slot you obviously answered 1 or 2 to the "Where do you like to ski tour?" The skis in this group are shooting to be under 1000 grams and are almost always narrower than 80mm. Skiers always underestimate the width of the skins as being the most important factor for going fast. If you had 2 different skis that both weighed 1 kilo and one was 78mm and the other was 85mm at the waist, the 78 mm ski will feel markedly faster and the uphill. The overall skin will be lightweight, but it is also almost a 10% reduction in drag do to the decrease in width. The lightest weight skis in this slot will be under 700 grams and are made for the serious racer are the brave fitness tour that doesn't mind descending on toothpicks (I personally find these skis do surprisingly well in a variety of snow conditions). The heavier 1 kilo skis are way more forgiving and some can even handle the occasional powder day, but you don't expect to podium at a ski mountaineering race.
The Race and Fitness Boots are 2 buckle offerings that are coming in at less than 1200 grams. If you are willing to pay close to 2 grand for a ski boot, or if you are just addicted to carbon you can go as low as 500 grams! Just because these boots are light doesn't mean they don't ski well, but the heavier the boot on the race/fitness spectrum the more forgiving the sweet spot. On a World Cup style race boot you need to stay perfectly balanced in the front of the boot to keep them stable and responsive at skis. If you are a little off balanced these tiny boots will feel like a bucking bronco. The boots creeping up above 1000 grams will still have an incredible range of motion for uphill travel, but are built for a more forgiving and reliable ski decent and may be worth the weight penalty to not feel like you are at war with your gear.
The Ski Mountaineering skis have some overlap with the fitness slot. The main distinction is that a ski mountaineering ski needs to be able to hold an edge when the going gets rough or icy. This makes them slightly heavier but the payoff comes from stability on the downhill. Because you never know what type of snow conditions you will encounter in the mountains, these skis range slightly wider for powder days or breakable crust. It is our recommendation that if you exceed 95 mm in the waist it becomes a bit too wide to be considered a pure ski mountaineering tool, however, there a ski mountaineers far more accomplished that haul their heavy fat boards up the biggest mountains more days of the year than I am even on snow.
There is certainly more overlap with ski touring boots and any of the heavier 2 buckle race and fitness boots will be great as Ski Mountaineering boots. That being said the lighter All Mountain boots are often more comfy and warm for the big mountains that require you to live in your ski boots. A ski mountaineering boot needs to take a crampon and have control in steep and variable terrain.
The term All Mountain is stolen directly from the alpine touring world and is our version of the "quiver of 1". Could you ski the deepest powder on an all mountain ski? Sure you can, too much powder is the greatest problem ever! Could you enter your enter your local uphill race? You bet just don't expect to win. The All Mountain skis don't get a 10 out of 10 in any particle category but are sure see B+ all over their report card. If your answer is sinked up to many of the answers above, and you don't want to buy multiple skis in your first year then go with an an All Mountain touring ski. Because they are touring specific they will already be lightweight and a ski around 98mm will handle every ski condition proficiently and even allow you to lap your favorite runs at the resort.
The All Mountain touring boots range from 1100-1400 grams and can really do it all. They are lightweight in the skin track and offer incredible control when its time to lock them down. Don't get too caught up in counting buckles, some of the two buckle boots ski just as hard as four, especially when on the feet of a good skier.
The Powder and Freeride skis are built for going big. Big in the backcountry or big at the resort, these skis are willing to pack on a few extra grams for optimal downhill performance. The terms sidecountry and slackcountry were thrown around, but are dangerous because once you leave the gates you are in controlled backcountry terrain whether you can see the tram or not. This is perfect for the tourer who is in pursuit of powder or the backcountry skier that doesn't want to change their style or feel a performance difference in the resort or out. In the chart above 120 mm underfoot is the biggest we go, but the sky is the limit if you are comfortable hauling the extra weight.
At Cripple Creek Backcountry we begrudgingly admit there have been incredible advances in freeride touring boots. This used to be a complete myth composed of Alpine boots with decorative walk mechanisms that left you trudging uphill. Now even the biggest burliest boots have a great range of motion that allow you to take longer more efficient strides even if they are a bit on the heavy side. Best of all these boots rip as hard as any but the stiffest alpine race boots so you can say goodbye to compromise.
When its time to move past the research stage we are here to help. All we do is dream of our ideal quiver and can clear up any compatibility issues for your next touring setup.